Dr. Sri Swamiji’s Music for Meditation and Healing (9 hours)
Mr. Yashwant Kulkarni had written some post saying Osho is a fraud. Here is a discussion which we had later on…. – @ Nikhil….>>>>I am in no way as knowledgeable regarding osho as the author of post or you. If you think the author is wrong/one-sided, say so to him- I would learn many things from such a correspondence<<<<< Well I am here and read all opinions cited by Mandar… I humbly wish to say that I am not in mood to held a debate on this issue with anybody coz I have satisfied myself that this old chap Osho was a Biggest Fraud ever walked under the name of a seer beyond the time. So no surprise Mandar cites so many positive opinions about Osho. Osho was materialistic as well as psychological conman. And this comes from my own experience. If anybody is really interested what he committed I have already given a link to coverage carried by Oregonian Newspaper of those days. Pl. See those 20 articles.6:39 pm
– All the claims made by oregonian news papers and cheap sites can be demolished by a single book named 12 days that shook the world….. @ Yashwant: i am not also in mood to debate….its useless…its matter of personal psyche, trust and understanding…..i respect your views, decision but all this makes my trust even deeper…Edit7:12 pm
– Thanks for saying that Mandar. >>>this makes my trust even deeper.. Isn’t this funny…? Trust in whom and for what? He all the way through demolished all kinds of trusts and beliefs.. Let it be.. this is endless riddle.7:20 pm
– @ Yashwant: Yes, it may sound funny to you… A meera dancing with Iktara, A Ramana Maharshi reading comics, A Majnu, A Van gogh….you may find these all funny……. You should read a lot….you ask trust in whom…..trust does not require a object….it does not require a reason. So, the question for what is also rubbish….If you find the reason and then trust, does your trust has any value?Edit7:44 pm
– ANd I will also like to tell….spirituality is not a business of Baniya people….by bania i mean, people who are interested in calculation, who need reason to keep trust. This is business of mad people. If you can see, all the enlightened people had a madness in their blood. Buddha Followed different masters for many years leaving his wealth. I would like to ask, had he any reason to trust that there is something called Nirwana? This was his madness….in other words, his sanity…So, my humble request is, those who think spirituality is also like business and deal, where you see, verify and then sign the deal, please think again.Edit7:52 pm
– This is all romantic stuff.. Meera dancing with Iktara.. A Ramana Maharashi reading comics… what does it make sense whatever they may do..? He had in habit of exploiting everybody’s psyche using his articulated skills of hypnotism…. That supplied him everything for his life.. every luxury.. But you have provided by him a very sweet and idealistic excuse that he was living in luxury coz he wanted to unite spirituality and wealth.. That old chap feeding his greeds..7:52 pm
– I would like to ask you one question…what is your interest? self transformation or putting someone down?Edit7:53 pm
– Those questions carry no sense.. the journey I caused by him such a trivial that anything I would say will carry no sense… But in a world where we live.. such peoples are called Fraud.. and no excuses should be made.. I want only that.7:56 pm
– No…it is the only sensible question in the world…..Please answer….what is your interest?Edit7:57 pm
– I wanted to know if really is there any such world he wasted his life describing with those shining words… I was curious.. damn curious … I wasn’t interested in achieving it.. But I am now at such a point that I cannot set any aim to be achieved..because I don’t know anything about it.. and nobody does… only somebody pretended to be known it.. that was Osho who turned to be Fraud..8:01 pm
– I am waiting for your answer :DEdit8:02 pm
– One minute Gentleman…….Tell me, how many books of Osho you have read? How many Audio/Video you have studied? I want to ask, how much have you known the person directly, without any medium in between?Edit8:04 pm
– and please answer the question only….answer just the number and names of books……Edit8:05 pm
– this is getting interesting…i am informing you that this whole dialogue will be posted on my personal website for thousands of my readers :)Edit8:06 pm
– I have listened and watached and read every book, tape and cassette that is there in the market.. I was just 5 year old when he died.. so never seen him face to face.. only through these means.. How can I give names and number of books? Piles of books..8:06 pm
– >>>>this whole dialogue will be posted on my personal website for thousands of my readers ok.. doesn’t matter.8:07 pm
– The whole point of Osho books is killing reasoning,which is outcome of ego. The purpose reading Osho is becoming simple…what i find is, people get furious by reading them. It means, anger still remains inside…Edit8:08 pm
– All the blames of Calder can be nullified by the book 12 Days That shook the world….have you read it???????Edit8:10 pm
– Oh man! Just think you have no ego.. U will turn into a stone..! each and every human action is outcome of human ego or in more simplified word his living instinct… It doesn’t matter unless you focus on EGO… killing EGO was a very attractive reason to exploit those maddies.. Killing ego and what you will do by killing Ego? You answer this..8:12 pm
– you say”Oh man! Just think you have no ego.. U will turn into a stone..!” would you say that Kabira was a stone? I think he was the most lively person on the earth……and asking again…have you read the book?Edit8:14 pm
– Don’t speak in past tense… speak of me and you.. I don’t know any Kabira… how does it influence my life if anybody lived without any ego?8:15 pm
– Okay…have you read the book 12 days that shook the world??Edit8:16 pm
– no..I missed it.. it was not available and I am not at all interested reading it now.. because I have my experience which came from within… So no books needed for whitewash8:21 pm
– No, you are denying facts…..please read the book and then i will consider you eligible worth discussing.Edit8:23 pm
– you are talking of experience coming from within…..i will ask how many hours you meditate………Edit8:24 pm
– What makes you believe that book carries truth? I am damn sure it would have been given all lamb excuses covered in more interesting things which have no interest and effect to nobody… Of the meditation.. that I would not like to share here.. I did and I had all those experiences of Kundalini Jagran and Tritiy Netra and all that stuff which is useless.. completely a burden caused by meditation…8:27 pm
– My experiences differ…..i meditate and it has made my life bliss……i do not know anything about third eye and kundlini…its bogus…..you have percepted your own imaginations as kundlini……real meditation makes life bliss….i am proof. you got burdens out of meditation…i got bliss…thats is what we both were looking for :)Edit8:31 pm
– thats why ii asked…what is your interest…transform ation or burdenEdit8:31 pm
– may be you havn’t got it enough.. this is just a starting.. I too felt Bliss and all those useless things except you .. those have no bearing on the world around us.. You just remember what I am saying when your head gets pressurized and you get blocked out.. and sudden bouts of energy explosion 24×7… Do you feel this can be imagined all the time..? do you feel body also imagining ? all those symptoms of straight eyebrows and bubble on frontal lobe and continuous flow up to head can be imagined… Do it right boy.. We will discuss it anytime.8:38 pm
– Yes…i am doing it right Mister….and for long time……you know, Buddha has said, you get what you search for………you were in very start looking for energy explosions and third eye,…you got them….i am not looking for them…or for anything…i am just looking…without any projection….and what is coming, is bliss….Edit8:41 pm
– I guess, you ran away midway…afraid of burdens….Edit8:42 pm
– Ha..ha..ha.. run away midway? Where to run away.. from my body? It gets sowed inside body when u meditate.. Meditation has certain impact on the body.. let alone your mentality… Mentality is hammered in the beginning.. and then body.. At the last there is nothing at all.. just a body and consciousness at the last.. This is turning just a play of words… I will not be available here for next 1.5 hour..8:46 pm
– If there is just consciousness, from where comes the urge to prove someone fraud? I do not think consciousness has any such qualities inbuilt in it….it is pure…i will be also going for my dinner out…..posting this much conversation on my site….will have a further talk soon!Edit8:48 pm
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Author: Mandar Karanjkar Mandar Karanjkar is author, motivational speaker and performer based in Pune. Mandar is trained in Indian Classical Music over a decade. He is a classical singer and flute player. Mandar has written columns for many reputed newspapers. Engineer by profession, he conducts workshops and delivers talks on subjects as wide as strategy, innovation, online marketing, spirituality, Kabir, Zen etc.
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